Sunday, July 31, 2011

THIRD LIST OF VETERANS GOT CLARIFIED THEIR RATE OF PENSION THROUGH OUR E-MAIL












Sl.No Rank   Name 

Place











1 Sqn.Ldr. Bidyut Chatterjee
Calcutta











2 Lt.Col(TS) Manjit Singh Khurana North India










3 Nb.Sub Raghubir Singh- Post 2006 N.I











4 Hav C.Munikrishnan
Kerala











5 Sgt GI.Raja Sekar
Kerala











6 MWO Judah Vincent    - 
N I











7 HAV Trilok Singh 
N I











8 WO KK.Khorana
N I











9 CPO Priyadarsi Ajeya
N I











10 Col H.P.SINGH
N I











11 Sgt. Balaji

Pondicherry










12 Sep Mahesh Chandra Pathak N I











13 Nk Vijayan Nair
Kerala











14 Cpl Vishwanath Bhat
N I











15 Rect Anil Kumar Dutta
Nadia











16 Sep Daya Ram
N I











17 HAV Antonu Raj
Bangalore










18 Sgt Gopal Samy
Coimbatore.




























Friday, July 29, 2011

ANAMOLY-POST 2006 JCOs


                Sub.Gunasekaran (Retd) Post -2006 retiree with our Office bearers.

ANAMOLY IS BEING ADDRESSED

One of the anamoly, that the Post 2006 JCOs are getting less pension than their counterparts discharged before 2006, was reported to MOD and CDA(P) Allahabad. The reply received in this regard is published for the information of all concerned.

REGISTERED

No.Gts/Tech/167-I
O/O the PCDA(P)
Allahabad
Dated: 18.01.2011

To

Ex-Servicemen and Social Welfare Trust (EXWEL)
No.15G, Military Lines
Samathanapuram, Palayamkottai
Tirunelveli-627002.
Tamilnadu

Subject: Improvement in the pension of PBOR discharged from service on
or after 01st Jan 2006.

Reference: Your letter No.Exwel/253/2010 dated 25.11.2010.
-----*----*----

In this context it is intimated that the issue regarding bridging the gap between pre and
post 2006 has already been finalized by government. The Govt. order on this subject has already been issued vide MOD letter No.17(4)/08/(2)/D (Pen/Pol) dt.18.08.2010 (copy enclosed for ready reference). It is further added that the suo-moto Corr. PPO will be issued for affected cases. The software program for implementation of this Govt. letter is under preparation and required Corr. PPO will be issued as and when the program is developed.

Sd/ x xx x
(ALOK PATNI)
Sr.A.O.(P)

Copy to-The Senior Record Officer
Officer in-Charge
MEG Record Office
Bangalore
Sd/- x x x
(ALOK PATNI)
Sr.A.O.(P


Wednesday, July 27, 2011

VERTERAN BROTHER-IN-LAWS HELPED.


ESMs T.Mathiasamy and Mariappan with our Admin.Officer, Hony.Flt.Lt. MP.Natarajan.
                                            

Not able to attend the pension Mela, Two veterans , both brother-in-Laws , called on at our Trust Office to verify the correctness of their Pension.

Particulars:
Name: T.Mathiasamy Reg.No: 13658423 Rank: Hav PPO.No: S/C/17351/84
Ro: Brigade of Guards. PDA: I O B Puliangudi, Tirunelveli-Dist, TN

2. Name: Mariappan Reg.No: 1311201 Rank: Sep PPO.No: S/15648/69
RO: M E G PDA : Indian Bank, Sankarankovil, Tirunelveli-Dist, TN

On verification,of their PPO and Discharge certificates, we found that both are getting correct pension.
They were very happy and they shared their service experience with our Admin.Officer Hony.Flt.Lt. M.Packia Natarajan who happened to be from their native place.

They thanked us for such a voluntary service for the cause of veterans in our area .

Tuesday, July 26, 2011

AIR FORCE SGT.HELPED



           Sgt. S.Jesupatham  with our Liaison Officer Sgt.S.kanthiah
ONE MORE AIR FORCE SGT.HELPED.

On our pension Mela, it was noticed that one Sgt.was getting less pension.

His particulars are:
Name: S.Jesubatham Serv.No: 274413 R, Group-III
PPO.No: AF/S/C/ 8309/85
Qly.Serv=21yrs
PDA: I O B Surandai, Tirunelveli-Dist, TN.

On verifying the Discharge certificate and the PPO , we found that his Group was III, but he was being paid pension for IV th Group, hence a short payment. .

The fact was informed to the PDA with a copy to their CPPC at Chennai for correction.

The aged Sgt.was pleased with our tireless and thanked us for such a voluntary service and action.

Monday, July 25, 2011

KARGIL VIJAY DIWAS JULY 26





KARGIL VIJAY DIWAS JULY 26


KARGIL VIJAY DIWAS APPEAL

Dear friends,

July 26 is Kargil Vijay Diwas, the 12th anniversary of the Kargil conflict during which as many as 527 Indian military personnel were martyred and 1,363 severely wounded. Four Param Vir Chakras were awarded, two posthumously and nine Maha Vir Chakras were awarded, six posthumously besides 55 Vir Chakras.

Several households – both military and non-military ones – have appreciatively adopted the poignant ceremony of lighting candles at home in the past two years.

You are requested to light a candle each at your residences' entrances and lay a marigold each by its side at 2000 hrs after saying a prayer for those who did not come back. This may additionally be done at offices.

Jai Hind!

YET ANOTHER SEPOY HELPED.



      Veteran K.Govindan with our Liaison Officer Sgt.S.Kanthiah


On our interactions in the Pension Mela, we noticed that one ESM is being paid less pension.

Full particulars:

Name : K. Govindan Reg.No: 2562379 Rank: Sep
PPO.No: S/C/ 10354/1987
PDA: I.O.B, Surandai, Tirunelveli-Dist, TN

On scrutinizing the Discharge Certificate and the PPO, it was found that his Qualifying Service was 20yrs, but he was being paid pension for 17.5 yrs only.

We reported the discrepancy to the PDA and their CPPC at Chennai for correction..

The Veteran was happy and thanked us for taking immediate steps in this regard.

Saturday, July 23, 2011

ONE MORE 80 YRS AND ABOVE PENSIONER HELPED, THE 27 TH ONE.


      Our Liaison Officer Sgt.S.Kanthiah is giving a copy of letter addressed to PDA to veteran P.Nambi



During our interactions with veterans in the recent pension Mela, we noticed that one ESM had completed 80 yrs of age.

His full particulars :
Name: P.Nambi Reg.No: 6255364 Rank: Sep RO: Signals
Date of birth: 20-10-1929 PPO.No: S/ 6393/64
PDA: Canara Bank, Srivaikuntam Turticorin-Dist, TN.

As per his discharge certificate, he had completed 80 yrs of age on 20-10-2009 and became eligible for an additional pension of 20%.

The fact was reported to the PDA , and the Manager was kind enough to accept our findings and promised to effect the Additional pension in this month itself.

The aged veteran was very happy and thanked us for the timely help by our Welfare Trust.


SUVIGYA SOFTWARE


 
GOOD NEWS FOR DEFENCE PENSIONERS

THE “SUVIGYA” SOFTWARE IS NOW AVAILABLE
IN AIR FORCE ASSOCIATION-INDIA WEBSITE

The Suvigya Software, which was developed by CGDA has been successfully uploaded in Air Force Associations’s Website (Beta version), which is under construction now.

Readers are invited to visit Air Force Association-India Website with the help of following link.

                                    http://182.72.141.134/afa/

After opening the website, click the more option against Recent Message, then you will find “Calculate your pension” button on the next screen right hand side.  Click that button, you will get Suvigya.

Find out your correct pension by feeding the required information and also help your friends to get their correct pension.

Please don’t forget to send a thanks message to AFA through feedback tab on the site.  A full fledged AFA Website will be opened under the domain name afa-india.org in few days.

This is really a very useful service to our defence pensioners.  All internet user ex-servicemen, please help the family pensioners to know their correct pension.

Friday, July 22, 2011

YET AYOTHER VETERAN HELPED FOR REFUND OF MBS DEPOSIT MONEY.



        Our Liaison officer Sgt.S.kanthiah  with veteran M Sudalai.



During the interactions with veterans in the recent Pension Mela, we noticed that the under mentioned ESM did not receive the MBS deposit money so far.
Name: M.Sudalai Reg>No: 25733937 Rank: Nk. Record Office: MRC
PDA: SBI, Tirunelveli Jn , TN.

On scrutinizing his pension and other papers for correctness of pension, we noticed that the original Medical Benefit Scheme Certificate was held by him. He was not aware that it was to be returned to AGI Fund and get the refund of deposit.

Immediately we prepared an application to AGI Fund, New Delhi , furnishing all the required particulars for refund of the MBS deposit money. The Tappal was dispatched on the same day to AGI.

The innocent Ex-Serviceman was very happy and thanked us for the timely , voluntary help by our Trust.

Thursday, July 21, 2011

ONE SENA MEDAL AWARDEE HELPED.



    Our Liaison Officer Sgt.S.Kanthiah is informing the Enhanced rate of Sena Medal award to Ex.Nk.Annamalai.



On our Pension Mela, we came to know that one Veteran was a Sena Medal Awardee and was receiving Rs.250/ only.
Particulars of veteran:
Name: Annamalai Reg.No: 2571046 Y, Rank: Nk. RO: MRC
PDA: SBI, Sankarankovil, Tirunelveli-Dist.,Tamil Nadu.

The veteran and the PDA were not aware of the Enhanced rate of Sena Medal - Rs.500 w.e.f 14-5-2008 and Rs.1000/ from 30-3-2011.

Immediately we reported the discrepancy to the PDA and Record Office for effecting the payment of Enhanced Rate of Sena meda Award.

The Veteran was taken aback by our instant action and expressed his heart felt gratitude for this help by our Welfare Trust.

Wednesday, July 20, 2011

ONE MORE INVALIDED PENSIONER HELPED.

                    Ex.Sep.V.Venkataraman  with our Liaison Officer Sgt.S.Kanthiah (Right side)

ONE MORE INVALIDED PENSIONER HELPED

On our visit and interactions with ESMs in the recent Pension Mela, we noticed that one ESM was discharged after 11 yrs of service on INVALIDED OUT case.

Name: Venugopalan Venkataraman Reg.No: 14309691 Rank: Sep( ORA),
RO: Arty, Nasik road Camp. PPO.No: D/SE/ 226/84

On scrutinizing his pension and other papers, we observed that he was assessed for 40% disability by the board, and discharged on invalided out reason. But he is being paid only service element of Rs.3500/ only . We have taken up the case with his Record office for Non receipt/ payment of disability element.

We also noticed that there is no family endorsement. We prepared the required the Appendix-1, and Annexure-11 immediately and sent it to Record office.

The veteran was not aware of this discrepancies . He was so happy and expressed his sincere gratitude for this timely and very important help by our Trust.

Tuesday, July 19, 2011

SECOND LIST OF VETERANS -ENQUIRED ABOUT THEIR PENSION.


SECOND LIST OF VETERANS GOT CLARIFIED THEIR RATE OF PENSION
THROUGH OUR E-MAIL

Maj. Romel Singh North India

Sep. Sathes KS……………………….. Norht India

Sep. Haris Panda………………….. North India

Hav. Radha Krishnan ………….. Puducherry

MWO. Buddhi Lal Verma … N. I

KM.Thampan .. Kerala

JWO Mohaned Mustaq………. N.I

W.O Sunil Kapoor………………. N.I

H.Nb.Sub.Ranjit singh Yadav Rajasthan

Hav. Banshilal Meena ………. N.I

Sub. Ravindr Kumar………….. N.I

Rect. Santhanam………………….. N.I

L/ NK. Praveen …………………. N.I

Cpl. K.Shanmugam Pillai…… S.I

Hav. Pradhan……………….. N.I

Sgt. Chandan Netra…….. N.I

J W O. Jashbhai Akholkar….. N I

Saturday, July 16, 2011

EXWEL TRUST JOINS HAND WITH ESM HELP LINE CENTRE-CHENNAI IN PENSION MELA


ESM. PENSION MELA AT TIRUNELVELI 


Col.Victor (Retd.) OIC ECHS explaining the purpose of the mela.

Lt.Col.Shyam Prasad (Retd.) inaugurating the Mela at Tirunelveli ESM Canteen.
The Team is preparing Suvigya Print out.
Inauguration of the Pension Mela at Srivilliputtur ESM Canteen      
                                                  Mela in full swing at   Srivilliputtur Canteen.
 
A programe of Ex-Servicemen Pension Mela was conducted by ESM Help Line Centre, Chennai at Tiirunelveli district, Tamil Nadu. Hony.Capt. David, Officer In charge HLC was the instrumental for this Mela. All our Trust members accompanied and assisted in all the activities . Hundreds of ESMs participated in the Mela and got verified and clarified their doubts. They were guided for further action where ever discrepancies noted.

Our Trust joined hand with HLC and extended valuable help to ESMs at their door step. 
                                                                  At Radhapuram

The Mela has made an impression and created awareness among the Ex-Servicemen to know their entitlement and the follow up actions.

The Mela was conducted at Tirunelveli, Radhapuram, Kadayam, Tenkasi and Srivilliputtur.
It was a grand success, the participants and the organizers are satisfied and the ESMs expressed their desire to have such Melas at regular intervals.

Friday, July 15, 2011

EX-SERVICEMEN PENSION MELA

EX-SERVICEMEN PENSION MELA AT TENKASI

         Lt.Col.S.Samsu (Retd.) inaugurating the mela at Tenkasi.
        Hon.Capt.M.David (Retd.) looks on.

 Lt.Col.S.Samsu (Retd.) addressing the pensioners.
 The Team behind the success of the Mela at Tenkasi.
 Ex.Hav.N.S. Sakthivelu busy at the mela.

EX-SERVICEMEN PENSION MELA

The ESM Helpline Centre, Chennai conducted Pension Mela at Keelamathapuram of Tirunelveli District on 13.07.2011. About 70 ex-servicemen and their families attended the mela.

The same team conducted another mela at Tenkasi on 14.07.2011. The Mela at Tenkasi was a tremendous success. More than 100 ESM and their families attended the Mela. All were given Suvigya Print out and advised to approach their bank where there was discrepancy.

Lt.Col.S.Samsu S. (Retd.) (President Rotary Club, Tenkasi), Hon.Capt.Thirumalai Velu (Retd.) of Kadayanallur Esm. Welfare Association and Hon.Capt K.S.Ramasamy (Retd.) have made very nice arrangements for the meeting. The Exwel Trust appreciates the efforts taken by the above three veterans for the success of the Mela at Tenkasi.

Note: All the Ex-servicemen Associations in Tamil Nadu should now approach the ESM helpline centre at Chennai to conduct such Pension Melas at their places for the benefit of their members.  This is a golden opportunity to get your pension corrected and settled once for all.

THE EFFORTS TAKEN BY ESM HELPLINE CENTRE  IS HIGHLY COMMENDABLE

Tuesday, July 12, 2011

VETERANS QUERIES THROUGH OUR E-MAIL



                 EXWELTRUST REACHES OUT TO HELP OUT STATION ESM VETERANS.

We are happy that,the following ESMs from out side Tamil Nadu , and also one from abroad were helped by this Welfare Trust to know their exact correct Rate of pension entitlement through E-Mail.

Rank Name Place

Wg.Cdr. Dinesh Bharat                                           Delhi

Lt.Col. RS.Malik                                                     North India

Lt.Col. RL.Kandari                                                 North India

Lt.Col.Mozaffar Khan                                             Canton MI  USA..

Col. Trijiwan Payal                                                  Dehradun

H F O Girdharilal Sahani                                         North India

J W O Jagadish                                                       North India

Sep. Devendra Singh                                              Rawat UP

Sgt. Adesh Tyagi                                                    Lucknow

HAV Murugesan                                                    Tamil Nadu

W.O G.P.Rao                                                        Hyderabad.

Nk. Vijay Kumar Lalpada                                     North India

Sub. MS.Nair                                                       Kerala

MCPO Pradeep Kumar                                       Mumbai

Sgt. Lalit Bharadwaj                                            Rewari, Haryana

Sgt. Dipesh N.Das                                              Kolkata

JWO Vupalapu Ellaiah                                        Hyderabad.

Sep Daya Ram                                                   VidyutNagar, UP

Saturday, July 9, 2011

HELPING HAND TO ONE MORE WIDOW

                Smt.G.Vellathai along with her son, ccomplaing the  non payment of family pension to our Liaison officer Sgt.SKanthiah.
         
On hearing the welfare activities of our Trust, one Widow approached us for getting her family pension.

Particulars :
Name : Smt.G.Vellathai W/O Late Sep.Gurusamy -1351255 ( Died on 10-2-2011)
PPO.No: S/ JN/ 40873/92
PDA: I.O.B, Karivalam VandaNallur, Tirunelveli-Dist, TN.

On srutinising the PPO and interaction with the widow, we noticed that the Joint Notification is already in the PPO and the widow has submitted the death certificate to the PDA and requested them to disburse the Family Pension. The PDA has informed that the action has to be taken from their CPPC at Chennai , and the occurrence is reported to them.

Now it is more that 4 months passed, pension not commenced. We contacted the PDA over phone and informed them to disburse the pension immediately under intimation to their HO, CPPC at Chennai . Meanwhile , we have also reported the delay in switching over to family pension to Record Office, MEG Bangalore.



Friday, July 8, 2011

TOLL FREE NO FOR E C H S


                                                                      ECHS HELPLINE

1. In our continuous efforts to make ECHS services more efficient, transparent and responsive for our veterans we have implemented a 24 x 7 helpline supported by a dedicated call centre.

2. This exclusive helpline has two numbers toll number is 080-4300-4300 and toll free is 1800-103-8666. The call centre provided solutions to our Ex-servicemen on all types ECHS queries like enrollment/empanelled hospital/treatment procedure/claim/policy etc. The helpline is acting as a single point contact to answer the ECHS queries of ESM effectively.

3. In addition, ECHS Helpline is also welcoming ESM queries through SMS on their dedicated number 09741494300, wherein ex-servicemen can ask their query through normal text and send a SMS to get a response on the same through SMS.
4. We are enhancing the spectrum of our ECHS Helpline by introducing the Ambulance and Bed Boarding Services in the immediate future. With introduction of ambulance service the Helpline will be able to provide Ambulance to the ex-servicemen in case of an emergency. The provisioning of ambulance will be payable by the veteran utilizing it. To call the ambulance ESM has to register his demand at 080-4300-4300.

5. With the introduction of Bed Boarding System, the Ex-servicemen would be able to get the updated information on available beds in the empanelled hospitals of ECHS.

6. All these facilities would now be available throughout India through a single number support i.e. 080-4300-4300.

7. You are requested to give these facilities and telephone numbers wide publicity amongst your members.

(Gulshan Chadha)
Lt Col
Jt Dir (Est)
For MD ECHS
Sincere thanks for our Indian Exserviceman Blog.

Wednesday, July 6, 2011

EXTENDING HELP TO ONE MORE WIDOW

                        


  Smt.Arunanachalathammal is receiving aa copy of letter from Ordance Factory from our Liaison officer Sgt.S.kanthiah.
                                         
                        HELPING HAND TO ONE MORE WIDOW PENSIONER.

On hearing the services of our Trust, one Defence Civilian widow called on us for a help in getting her family pension:

Particulars fo pensioner:
Name: Smt.Arunachalathammal W/O late Sri.S.Komban Trade : Techinian
Records : Ordanance Factory, Tiruchirapally, Tamil Nadu.
Pensioner died on 4-12-2010.
PPO.No: C/FYS/11164/88 PDA: Indian Bank, Tirunelveli-Jn, Tamil Nadu.

After the death of the pensioner and submitting the death certificate and other documents, the PDA was not prepared to switch over to Family pension, when enquired they said that they require an instruction from Ordanance factory/ CDA .

We reported the case to Ordanance Factory at Tiruchirapally and received the instructions to Disburse Family pension to Smt.Arunachalathammal immediately.

The PDA has now disbursed the pension after our intervention and instructions from Ord.Factory.

The aged widow along with her Son came to our Trust office and expressed their gratitude for the efforts taken by our trust in getting the Family pension .

Monday, July 4, 2011

ONE MORE FEATHER ADDED TO OUR CAP. ONE MORE SPECIA FAMILY PENSIOER HELPED



                         Smt.Ponnammal  with our Chief Liaison Officer Sgt.S.Kanthiah

During our recent visit by our Liaison Officer, to Canara bank, Gangaikondan, he noticed that one Special Family pensioner was being paid the Un-revised pension.

Full particulars:
Name :Smt.Ponnammal W.O late J.Issac Rank: Hav No; 7015566
PPO.No: F/ 3066/ 71
PDA : Canara bank, Gangaikondan , Tirunelveli-Dist, Tamil Nadu

 The widow was getting Rs.5763 instead of rs.7000/-
The Non-Revision was reported to the Branch Manager and he readily accepted our findings and submission . He also promised to revise the pension and pay the arrears  in this month itself..

The aged widow was immensely pleased with our services and expressed her heart felt gratitude to our Trust members at our office.

Saturday, July 2, 2011

DEFENCE PENSION BOOK AS A GIFT


A GIFT FOR YOUR ANNUAL GENERAL BODY MEETING

This is the time for conducting the Annual General Body Meeting of all the Exservicemen Welfare Associations.  There are more than 50 ESM Associations in Tamil Nadu.  On this occasion, we request every Association in Tamil Nadu to purchase the Guide Book on Defence Pension in Tamil named “Therinthu Kollungal” and distribute to them.  Let this book be a Gift to your members on this AGM.

This book is very useful to all the family members of the ex-servicemen.  It is sold on concessional rates to all ESM Welfare Associations. Cost of One book is Rs.30. (We accept orders for minimum 10 books only)

                Cost of 10 books  only Rs.275 (including courier charges)
                Cost of 50 books only Rs.1250(including courier charges)

Please encourage your members to enrich their knowledge on our pension matters.  Educate them through internet.  Tell your children to visit our Blogs.  www.indianexservicemen.blogspot.com and www.exweltrust.blogspot.com .

You can send Money Order to:  Flt.Lt.M.P.Natarajan (Retd.)
                                                                No.15G, Military Lines,
                                                                Samathanapuram,
                                                                Tirunelveli 627002.
                                                                Mobile: 9894125019, 9894152959, 9786449036.

ராணுவ பென்சன் பற்றி தமிழில் ஒரு வலைப்பூ (Blog) தொடங்கலாம் என்று நினைக்கிறோம்.  வாசகர்கள் தங்கள் கருத்துகளை எங்களுக்கு தெரிவிக்கவும்.  எங்களுடைய மின் அஞ்சல்  : exweltrust2006@yahoo.com 
இன்டர்நெட் பற்றி உங்கள் குழந்தைகளிடம் இருந்தே நீங்கள் கற்றுக்கொள்ளலாம்.  விரைவில் தமிழக அரசு, பள்ளி குழந்தைகளுக்கு மடி கணினி (Lap Top) வழங்க உள்ளது.  நாமும்  தெரிந்து கொள்வது நல்லதுதானே ! 

உங்கள் சிந்தனைக்கு 

எண்ணும் எழுத்தும் கண்ணென தகும்.
எழுத்தறிவித்தவன் இறைவன் ஆவான்.
காலத்தால் அழியாதது கல்வி.
ஒருவரின் அனுபவம் மற்றவருக்கு பாடம்
வறுமையும், செழுமையும்  வாழ்வில் நிரந்தரமல்ல.
அன்பை விதைத்தவன் அமைதியை அறுவடை செய்வான்.

Friday, July 1, 2011

EXTENDING A HELPING HAND TO YET ANOTHER WIDOW PENSIONER.


                  Smt.P.Jayalakshmi at our office with Liaison Officer Sgt.S.kanthiah.



Late Nk,G.Perumalsamy expired on 3-5-2011 and on hearing our noble services, his wife approached us for getting her family pension.
The PDA asked her to produce the documents like Death certificate and Legal heir ship certificates.

Full particulars : Name: Smt.P.Jaya Lakshmi w/o Late G.Perumalsamy
No: 13668082 RanK: Nk. RO: Records Brigade of Guards.
Date of death : 3-5-2011 PDA: SBI, Kovilpatti, Tuticorin-Dist.

Even after producing the death and Legal heir certificate, they wanted to confirm the Endorsement of Family pension , which was already existing in the PPO.
We reported the incident to Record Office and received a confirmation of Joint Notification.
Now , we informed the same to the PDA and their CPPC at Chennai to commence disbursement of family pension to Smt.Jaya Lakshmi, without further delay.

The Manager has now agreed to start payment of family pension from the Month of July 2011.

The widow was very happy and thanked us for this noble help in getting her family pension.

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